I genuinely see no conflict here, and I think anyone who does has gotten caught up in a narrative. I don’t really care if their picture falls apart, if it requires magic than show me how it works…But I think the book explains it already, indirectly
What is prophecy?
The US empire will collapse, and its not going to be spectacular, it will happen with agonizing slowness.
In a moment of enlightenment, I knew it was true. I’m having a lot of trouble accepting it, even years later - I still wait for people to take to the streets and take back our democracy, or for a solar flare to give us a reset. I’d rather be there to rebuild or have AI or aliens save us… But that’s not going to happen, is it?
Deep down I understand it’s cope, intellectually I see how it fits together. I know how this plays out in general terms, but I haven’t seen the future. I’ve just seen the full picture for a moment
Is that a prophecy? Because what I felt at that understanding was despair and resignation. I could write a poem about it, does that make it a prophecy?
You lost the thread and went into beep boop beep territory there.
In short prophecy is anything that people look back on and say “wow, they sure got that right” even if they didn’t get it right and it wasn’t until after the fact that anyone even saw something as having predictive pretenses.
I tend to think there’s more to it… Otherwise it’s just a prediction. And I don’t know wtf beep boop beep territory is supposed to mean
I don’t think prophecy is that stupid though. It’s genuine wisdom, it is a thing that can be done, when you empty your mind of desire and for a moment you can understand how the systems you know play out. It’s floating the stone for society if you will, letting go of yourself long enough to use your understanding objectively
And that’s my whole fucking point. The poetry is irrelevant. David or whoever could’ve looked at Jewish history, which is all about wise men rallying the people, and determining “this too shall end” and predicting it would come in the form of another wise man
I genuinely see no conflict here, and I think anyone who does has gotten caught up in a narrative. I don’t really care if their picture falls apart, if it requires magic than show me how it works…But I think the book explains it already, indirectly
What is prophecy?
The US empire will collapse, and its not going to be spectacular, it will happen with agonizing slowness.
In a moment of enlightenment, I knew it was true. I’m having a lot of trouble accepting it, even years later - I still wait for people to take to the streets and take back our democracy, or for a solar flare to give us a reset. I’d rather be there to rebuild or have AI or aliens save us… But that’s not going to happen, is it?
Deep down I understand it’s cope, intellectually I see how it fits together. I know how this plays out in general terms, but I haven’t seen the future. I’ve just seen the full picture for a moment
Is that a prophecy? Because what I felt at that understanding was despair and resignation. I could write a poem about it, does that make it a prophecy?
Yeah we can tell.
You lost the thread and went into beep boop beep territory there.
In short prophecy is anything that people look back on and say “wow, they sure got that right” even if they didn’t get it right and it wasn’t until after the fact that anyone even saw something as having predictive pretenses.
I tend to think there’s more to it… Otherwise it’s just a prediction. And I don’t know wtf beep boop beep territory is supposed to mean
I don’t think prophecy is that stupid though. It’s genuine wisdom, it is a thing that can be done, when you empty your mind of desire and for a moment you can understand how the systems you know play out. It’s floating the stone for society if you will, letting go of yourself long enough to use your understanding objectively
And that’s my whole fucking point. The poetry is irrelevant. David or whoever could’ve looked at Jewish history, which is all about wise men rallying the people, and determining “this too shall end” and predicting it would come in the form of another wise man